The Scream Queen Interviews Brian Fair of Shadows Fall!
Date: August 2010
How has
the Mayhem Fest been going so far?
Ah, it’s been great, we’re five or six shows in and the crowds every day have
been insane, even through brutal heat and things like that, which amazes me
because I mean, it’s tough for us to go out there for a half hour and they’re
standing out there for five-six hours without any shade. It’s been amazing, it’s
a killer lineup, bunch of great bands, and it’s run super smooth, non-stop
music; that’s what I love about it -- there’s no set changes between the two
stages, it’s just constantly. Today, unfortunately, no motocross-like-dudes
because they don’t have a place to set up, but there’s been that every day. So,
it’s crazy, you know.
I didn’t know that.
Yeah, Metal Mulisha is out here jumping, but today
there’s no place to do it because there’s not the room; they wouldn’t let them
do it on the street.
Are you guys working on a new album?
You know, we’re just going to be touring until the end of this run and then
probably heading home for a little bit with some time off and then start working
on it. I can’t imagine us not really getting down to doing anything until early
next year. By the end of the year, we’ll start writing some stuff; start like
demos in early 2011.
I heard that Matt is doing a side project?
Yeah, actually Matt and Jon have a little -- it’s like, like a-- it’s still
kind of metal, it’s a little more on the rock side, and a lot less thrashy, it
would probably be a little too rock ‘n roll for the Shadows
Fall stuff, but they’re working with Derek from Unearth on drums, and they’re just looking for a
singer right now.
I’ve been reading a bunch of rumors saying that this new side project may be
the end of Shadows Fall, can you clarify that for me?
I doubt it. Yeah, they’ve been working on this for a little while so --
everyone always has side projects.
Yeah, like Phil Anselmo.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
How do you feel the internet over the last five years or so with social
networking has affected heavy metal in general?
Well, it’s been good and bad. Things like Twitter and Facebook allows you to keep people updated. Like, we put up our signing
times every day and our set times, and all of that. And also, just keeping
random photos and keeping them interested with what’s going on with the tour.
Bad side is that everyone can just steal music and things like that, so record
sales have been really diminished, and it makes it a lot harder for a label to
be able to front money to a band to make new records and go on the road, and
things like that. So, it’s kind of a double-edged sword. Bands are getting
probably more exposure than they would’ve had, but unfortunately they’re making
less money because of it. It kind of sucks, it’s kind of a weird thing.
Yeah, that’s what I’ve noticed, heavy metal artists are rank high on the
Billboards, but then their following CD is a lot lower.
Yeah, well even sometimes you’ll be -- we actually charted higher on our last
record than the one before it, the one before it actually sold more copies
because all of the numbers are just dropping. Every year it’s dropping like,
20-30% across the board on the record sales. It’s pretty crazy. So, something’s
going to have to change the whole way things are done at some point. CDs are
probably just going to get phased out.
Yeah, going to all mp3’s pretty much.
Yeah, pretty much.
You guys have a
DVD coming out?
We don’t know the release date yet, but we’re hoping for the end of October,
but we just found a bunch of other footage that we’re actually trying to include
now. So, it was shot live in the Phillipines, in Manilla. It was a big festival,
you know, like huge show, multi cameras, all that stuff. So, and then there
should be like a whole other bonus thing. We did a trip to Korea, we want to
include some of that and a few other things, so trying to get it all together to
come out hopefully in October at the latest, but we‘ll see what happens. Maybe a
little sooner.
How do you feel the camera captured your stage presence and
energy?
You know, it does what it can do, you’re never going to really be able to get
all of the energy of a live show, which is also what the internet can’t steal,
you can’t steal the live experience, but at least you can -- it’s a way to
showcase what we’re all about on stage. So, it’s a real cool set list of mixes
and stuff, it was the first time we had ever played War, it was the first time
we’d ever played Public Execution, but also we played stuff from the
first album too. So, it was kind of a cool set list that way and just, we had
tons of pyro and explosions and all of that stuff, so it’s definitely cool, it
came out pretty cool.
What is one of the major things you’ve seen change with your touring habits
since you’ve been with Shadows Fall?
Well, you know, we started out in the van, and you know, just five of us with
one other person, you know, doing it super like budget/DIY style, to the point
you’re on a bus. This tour, we’re actually pretty stripped down, we didn’t bring
much of a crew; we’re doing a lot of stuff ourselves. A lot of that has to do
with again, just the fact you want to package up a bunch of bands because people
don’t have a lot of money right now, so you want to be able to give more bands
for the price of a ticket. Unfortunately, that means you split what you make a
little bit less, but gas prices are going up. So, (laughs) we’re
looking for other ways to try to keep it financially, you know, where you can
maintain it, you know, like-- it’s definitely tough. It’s worth it to try and
make these shows that much better for people to be able to come out and spend
money. People can’t spend money to see a million bands a month, you know? You
just can’t afford it these days. That’s what’s great about these package tours,
it’s just eleven amazing bands for the price of one show.
Which band
are you or were you looking forward most to seeing?
You know, Lamb of God and Hatebreed are my favorite live
bands, we’ve obviously toured with each band probably ten times each, I’ve seen
them a lot. But it’s cool. And also, Rob Zombie puts on a pretty
serious show, he’s got a lot of crazy video screens and all that stuff, he keeps
adding to it too. Yeah, so that’s cool to watch.
Before you started the Mayhem Fest, was there anything you were excited
about doing that you didn’t do on any previous tour?
You know, we were actually just looking forward to getting back on a summer
festival tour. We’ve done a few Ozzfest’s and things like that, and it’s been a
while. These are probably the most fun tours, not only do you have your friends
around, the crowds are huge, and very mixed as well. You get in front of a lot
of new people, so for us, it was more about getting back to that kind of
environment. We’ve been doing -- we did three great tours with Five
Finger Death Punch, doing club and theater shows, and that was
great, but it’s good to be able to get back out to heavy metal summer camp
again.
You guys were touring a lot in 2005/2006, I believe. Then you kind of
stopped for a while--
Well, we came off the road in 2006, it took us about a year to get Threads of Life written and done. Then, we went out
for another straight year though, then took another six months to get the new
record out. The War Within “era” was--did last like
three years though, we were on the road insanely, though. Yeah, we can’t keep up
the pace we used to. (laughs) Enjoying time at home too much these
days, you know. (laughs)
I used to
hear you guys ALL over the media and I don’t know, it seems like heavy metal has
kind of, I don’t want to say dying down, but had gotten very popular, and now
it’s---
Yeah… That’s what’s going to happen with anything, you know. Once it tries to
get too big, then there’s just too many bands, and then everyone’s trying to do
the same thing, and just gets over saturated, you know? We’ve been doing it for
over fifteen years though. We’ll always be around! (laughs)
You’re a vegan, correct?
Vegetarian, actually.
Cool, I’m a vegan.
Cool, a lot of the people on this bus right now are vegans, a lot of the
Winds of Plague guys are vegan. It’s been pretty easy on this tour actually,
because there’s catering, and they always have a vegan/vegetarian option every
day. When you’re just kind of -- we just did South America, that was not as
easy. (laughs) They didn’t really uh…They don’t really embrace the
vegetarian idea too much down there. You can always find a way, but we
definitely had to do a little work.
Yeah, I’ve heard from so many people that they say that it is hard to be
vegan/vegetarian while touring or on the road…
Yeah, it can be especially when you’re, like if you’re in a van, it’s very
tough because you don’t have a refrigerator to at least stock up at a grocery
store and some stuff, and trying to find late night food that works is pretty
tough. But once you’re in a bus, you at least have some options of you know,
microwave and refrigerator; then a tour like this, there’s catering. But, it can
be tough; there’s always a way though.
Have you done any recent work with Peta?
You know, not really, for me, Peta has always been
a way for me to express my ideas. I’m not a huge fan of the organization as a
whole. Just, any time somebody becomes that much of a political organization, it
starts to have an agenda, you know, outside of what it started as, so it’s kind
of tough to speak for them when I don’t know everything about them. But, I’ll
always do an interview with them to at least express my ideas and spread the
word about how I feel. For me, vegetarianism is a very personal thing, it’s hard
to force it on someone, you just get more of a negative reaction than anything
else. If you don’t embrace it personally, you’re not going to be able to really
do it anyway.